When given the sample deck, my favorite was the Ebony stain. :). Thank you for taking the time to do it. Best practice would be to get a piece of walnut and do some tests. In the past, if what I stained was too intense, I mixed a little light grey paint with lots of water, brushed it over the stained wood, then wiped it off. Minwax recently came out with a Simply White stain and I’m in love with it! This is so helpful!! Prep- if you sand wood, the grit that you finish at will dramatically change how much stain is absorbed. Do more!! Should I layer a bit of white and with a gray that I wipe off quickly? Dang- wish I had seen/used your wood stain tips! On our floors, though, it wasn’t dark enough in certain lighting, and it had a lot of unexpected lighter gray tones. When you answered 3 coats, does that mean 1 coat stain and 2 poly? Best option is to cut small pieces of what you’re going to be using and do some at-home tests to see the impact. are you still pleased with your choice of Dark Walnut on your red oak floors? I have read you can bleach red Oak but don’t know how labor-intensive that is I was told my original 1930s floor could not be refinished So picked white oak which I prefer but then a different refinisher said yes they can be refinished. We are ultra-excited that it’s finally time for this point in the renovation. Chestnut Ebony Sedona Red Coffee Brown Classic Gray Rosewood English Chestnut Red Mahogany Early American Jacobean Antique Brown Colonial Maple Special Walnut Spice Brown Provincial Cherry Gunstock Medium … This was very helpful in moving forward with our birch project! At the moment I am working on an old student desk made of white oak that I would like to stain in contrasting dark and light shades. The easiest way to buy duraseal stain for lay people is online on amazon or flooring specific websites. Thanks! I thought this this was the most helpful, comprehensive site for wood floor stains. Very helpful post! Thanks so much for putting this together. :D I hated every single stain on both oaks! Thank You, Thank You Thank You for doing this. I am definitely sharing this post with my clients. What can be mixed with #2716 Dk Walnut penetrating stain, to bring out a touch of red. Minwax is always my go-to for wood staining, I’ve been using it for almost 20 years now. White Oak can’t take a bad picture. I wouldn’t feel bad about painting it, really. What are your thoughts on this? Guys – this is SUPER helpful! Both of the oak species took on a sort of Cerused look I’m very into. Olympic Stain 56500-5 Maximum Waterproofing Sealant, 5 Gallons, Clear 4.4 out of 5 stars 429. Haha! Thank you for taking the time to document and share the results ! Do you have any recommendations? If you are looking for the best wood flooring stain for you hardwood floor, choose Duraseal Quick Coat Stain. I prefer Red Oak. There is very little difference between the conditioned and unconditioned white and red oaks, but the other three definitely benefited from the pre-stain conditioner. :D Thanks for the comparison – so useful!! I chose Provincial because it's a nice medium brown with cool undertones (less gold and red). yes! we have it on our stairs and railings which is gorgeous too. I have red oak floor that we are considering staining to become a medium brown like yours! It doesn’t look like it from the red oak samples. Why would they do that and not stick with white oak??? I have debating about what the difference a primer or conditioner will make, this was a big help! By the way, that article mentions Minwax Stain also. Minwax Dark Walnut was the first stain color that I fell in love with when I first started woodworking. 150 Gunstock. Thanks so much for your help and for this wonderful post! Ex: contractors squatting in my back room at night, appliances stolen (we were in a motel for 9 months) problems with pouring concrete flooring, broken pipes under the foundation and last but not least, the City of Houston. Going to bookmark it or future reference. I’m currently working on a dining table for our British Colonial interior using Red Oak and was concerned with color matching the existing dark woods. simply the best thing I’ve seen on how various stains work on various woods Thank you for doing this. Thanks! i knew you’d love that color! But we did 3 coats. I’ve referred back to this so many times. I’m nervous I won’t like how it turns out. I don’t have the same wood as the doors, to do samples on, but I’ve used the conditioner and sampled Red Mahagony (way too purple and dark), Dark Walnut (too dark), Special Walnut (a contender), Gunstock (way too orange), English Chesnut (not too bad), Cherry (very light) Honey (very dark!? Dura Seal Wood Stain contains a rich blend of oil and resin that gives hardwood floors a soft, satiny sheen. I’ve noticed in our new house that some of the pine woodwork is more yellow than others. Description. I’m afraid of having the oil based turn simply white on white oak any bit of amber or golden. There is not much worse than putting on the wrong stain, especially if you are working with dark ones. Do you know how Chestnut stains? Thank you SO much for doing this! It is an elusive stain!! thank you so much for this. I love how classic / timeless it looks but…that white oak with Simply White stain definitely gives me the heart eyes. And I didn’t realize how much I loved birch and poplar before this! I think some people just don’t care about that sort of thing! Wow, I didn’t realize that about sanding! In addition to our lighting experiments, we went through an extensive process of elimination to make sure we were making the right decision. To give each wood the best chance at sporting stain, we started our study with Minwax’s Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner. and loving the color but they are not very easy to maintain in family homes. Last, is the redder of the two dark stains we experimented with. This rich blend of oil and resin gives hardwood floors a soft, satiny sheen. Thanks for pulling this together! There are 2 options of stains I found for me but I can’t decide which one would be the best. We put pine floors in last year and I stained them with a colour called Special Walnut from minwax. Exactly what I needed to move forward with my project! I think the huge variation in poplar might drive me a little crazy, but birch does look awful stunning in those two dark stains. Is the Minwax conditioner a substitute for water-popping? I have an old 90s red oak dining table and I’d like to go for the PotteryBarn “Seadrift” color. Not too! We see a lot on the web about jacobean and dark walnut but not as much about antique brown. Please be patient... We're looking up all of your individual pricing and inventory levels. I built a queen sized farmhouse bed a YEAR ago this month and I have yet to gain the courage to actually stain and finish it, fearing I’ll hate it after I screw it up with an ugly stain color or horrible application of it. This is the BEST ever and so thorough! Neal…just curious….what stain are you going with for an A&C piece? I will be making a stain choice this week. Lisa did you end up picking a color? Jun 29, 2019 - Duraseal stain on white oak. Darn! I had never used a pre-stain conditioner and also wanted to see the denefit of doing so. This is a fabulous post! My first go around I noticed an embarrassing amount of blotching from the stain. DuraSeal® Quick Coat Penetrating Finish is a semi-transparent dark walnut stain formulated to seal, color, and provide exceptional durability when used on bare wood and masonry surfaces. See more ideas about duraseal stain, floor stain colors, floor stain. I’m so sad I was using this for reference. which is not what I want.please help. yes! At first I was planning on pine because it’s cheaper…just not sure which stain to use…then I thought I would spend a little more and get red oak…now I have come here and I’m not sure if I want poplar, white oak, or red oak. The wood is extremely dry. As we mentioned, we narrowed down our options to three: Dark Walnut, Ebony and Jacobean. This was so helpful for me, and my most amateur endeavors. Welcome to our virtual home, 7th House on the Left, which is about our actual home here in Hanover, Virginia. I appreciate any thoughts on this. Minwax Golden Pecan. Thanks for doing this, it really is beneficial! Oh dear. Hope that helps!! haha. I would like to stain it in a Jacobean Blend with gray 75-25, Dark Walnut or Espresso but I am not seeing many examples out there of Acacia being used or re-stained. We have been using Pickled Oak on a ton of projects lately. The first of the dark stains we tried was also the more neutral in tone. My one tip to anyone doing their own floors is sand everything evenly – we had a couple spots that we didn’t sand as consistently and those areas took the stain much darker than the rest of the floor. All rights reserved. Poplar looked a little bit like watermelon. We recent had a fireplace mantle done in Red Oak and were afraid to stain it. I am so glad I found this post and your blog. I was also thinking it wasn’t sanded. Excellent resource. You said that birch is a very soft wood (extremely) which is incorrect. Its interesting because on White Oak, in our experience, the color is much lighter than what is shown in your post. I would test it in a discreet area. Looks like it could pass for walnut at a glance, especially with the unconditioned side looking like wood grain. If there’s anything we don’t want, it’s for the floors to be too light. I think ‘General Finishes’ is better because as the author says it’s great for difficult to stain pine and it’s easy to apply for the person who has no experiences in staining wood like me. I am literally holding off on my cedar plank wall project until I can find a freaking can of it somewhere in the universe lol. var rsLTKLoadApp="0",rsLTKPassedAppID="714598600"; This content requires JavaScript to be enabled, and the site or browser may be disabling it. The other woods took the stain well, with more redness coming out of the conditioned sides of the boards. I found that anything with even a slightly blue-ish undertone (some of the whitewashes and grays have) turned our floors lavender! Poplar has green undertones. Or a sort of gray stain that would really cut the yellow could work! Took us too much time in make this video. 5 thumbs up for you in my book. Really! Brand- Minwax stains actually have less pigment in them compared to others like Mohawk, etc. And yes on the water popping! The Douglas fir has a orange tent I need to tone down. It looks pretty pink even right after staining, so I don’t think the white stain is on Red Oak is what you want. Like I said, I wish we could do 15 more of these! I had to decide quickly (insert problem) for selecting a stain and was not used to staining any type of cedar and made the mistake of teak (color choice). THANK YOU. And of course it is orange once again. Still love the solid wood cabinets, still love the arrangement. This was very helpful and appreciative. We came to picked Oak after looking into wax-based finishes (Bona, etc.) I am thinking I will use a golden oak stain and if it’s not perfect I may add a coat of white over it. The white on the pine makes my heart race! 140 Colonial Maple* 102/202 Nutmeg. Using on pallet wood, probably pine as yellow seems prominent. Have you found one color stain that makes them similar? Birch did surprisingly well and the oaks were naturals. I really like this post and would love to see another post just like it, but with different woods and stains. Anyway – thank you again! Useful helpful post. Thanks again. Gorgeous! You can also find her over at Ashley Brown Creative, which is the home to her online store and brand + web design services. Do you have an picture example you could link me too? Additionally, I’d say on 95% of our jobs, the stain color of the floor is generally a mix multiple stain colors where they mix both dark walnut and jacobean, or even mixing between minwax duraseal varathane etc. When we looked at the swatches in the booklet, we really liked this stain. We literally just finished stripping and sanding down pine stairs that had been painted and coated in sand by the previous owners… yesterday. I want to thank you for your testing it was just what I needed. Think of all trim and stair parts as furniture. 6. They were applied and excess removed within about 3 minutes. It will really help me to choose the right product for the wood floor of my future house. Where with pine (except heart pine), it’s softness accepts stain quickly and often unevenly, which is why conditioner is so important to use before staining many softwoods. yes! It’s a little smelly. My project is to build a side table and coffee table using 1/2″ black iron pipe and then picking an edge glued wood for the top of it. 50/50 ebony/dark walnut blend or ebony) OR go as light as possible (i.e. Never saw this before. Thank you for conducting this experiment! And the second one is ‘General Finishes Oil Base Gel Stain’ I read about in this article https://woodimprove.com/best-wood-stains/#product1. Riftsawn and quartersawn oak is gorgeous, but plainsawn needs to go away! ft./gallon Number of Coats 1 to 2 VOC 550 Shelf Life 2 years Any experience or advise with this? Just wanted to say thank you. (Hint: Red). Ended up going with red oak and golden oak stain and the color is exactly as seen in person. Wood conditioner is certainly key (learned that the hard way). )…maybe minwax will give you another opportunity! How many coats of stain did you do on the samples? Thank you for doing this! I have most of my new doors (they were about a $100 a piece, so they are poplar I guess, maybe birch) painted repose Gray on one side, but the other side I want to stain. Yeah, it all depends on who you ask. I’ve done several wood projects, but I was considering using birch plywood for the first time. As beautiful as they are, wish we had stuck with oak due to the hardness factor. This is one of my favorite posts I have ever read – ! Oh no! Any insight on how the gold would affect the stain color? Thank you so, so much for this exercise. I agree with Sarah! This was a great post!! Do you have tips for re-staining newly nailed western red cedar shingles? Love this! Definitely referencing this any time we have a staining project. containerEl: document.querySelector('#fd-form-5d767f96afdf3e000f968472') Awesome post. which one you will prefer ? i want to try the white after sadning but i think ill do the walnut to match my dark floors and grey corrian counters. That is bland. How many coats did you apply and how long did you leave each coat on for? White scares me with upkeep/kids but afraid stain won’t go with design I’m going for. Sunny. DuraSeal ® Quick Coat Penetrating Finish is a semi-transparent stain formulated to seal, color and provide exceptional durability when used on bare wood and masonry surfaces. In fact, it looked almost pinky gray. You can get a matte finish polycrylic and that often causes the least amount of change. Thanks for that. However since the top gets plenty of use I put on a coat of varathene. Yes, the harder (denser) the wood, like yellow or white birch or maple, oak, the more difficult it is to accept stains where you want darker results. Thank you for your help, creativity, time and amazing design inspiration. Anyway, I think I just need to condition the boards… as you stated and provided evidence! We can’t wait to see it… the anticipation is practically killing us! Oh man, where was this post in the summer when I got new floors?! And Red Oak should probably stay away from things that add even more red to it (like Pickled Oak and Golden Pecan). Loved this! This post could not have been better timed for us! #walnuthardwoodflooringredoak #woodflooringstain dark, not too light, with lots of variation All of the wood types accepted the stain well, except the non-conditioned Birch side. We love how the stain really brings out the wood grain. Do you know by chance if you could go over the Jacobean with the simply white to get some contrast? Thank you so much! I found one of the photos through a google search but a whole S load of spam sites had the photo. Thanks for sharing! I’m not a fan of grey but I’m thinking if I sand off the varathene, would weathered oak tone down the orange????? This was so helpful to see all the stains on the birch board. This is a really cool post. As a reminder, here are all the types of wood in their natural, raw state: 1. Treating raw wood with conditioner helps prevent streaks and blotches by evening out the absorption of oil-based stains. The green in the Poplar board went to an almost black, like in the Jacobean stain–very stunning. Now I can’t wait to do the downstairs, which are white oak floors. Really appreciated it – you could totally make a series out of it! No wonder white oak is the HG of wood flooring. This is SUCH a helpful post! Here’s how it went…. Full Disclosure on Sponsorships & Affiliates, Casual Friday: Polly’s Sleeping, Eating and Schedule at 6 Months old. It’s a beautiful medium shade that doesn’t read yellow at all. totally perfect sponsored post. Last, is the redder of the two dark stains we experimented with. Also was a polyurethane topcoat added which would yellow the stain some? The green that is generally very pronounced in Poplar, turned into more of a warm gray. It’s one of their new stains. 2 offers from $186.96. white or red ?? Since I poured concrete flooring (this is our second flood) and it is gray and my walls are repose gray, the bedrooms, where most of the doors are, I feel – need a wood stain to give the rooms warmth. I hope that helps. If you’re not having success with home improvement store products to get the color you’re after, paying just a bit more for a different brand can really help (or vice versa if you’re wondering why a different brand is giving much darker color). 5. You could even paint it a contrasting color! A few posts ago, we talked about hardwood floor stain colors. Ultimately, I think I’ll need to coordinate a color so that I can leave the inside of the cabinets gold, which suggests black to me. The white oak looks even, but the red oak looks like zebra stripes–although the dark walnut showed less contrast than the jacobean. This is a Medium video about 12 minutes. It’s so hard to decide!! They look too orangey for my liking which I find happens frequently with stains and now wonder if I can go over them in a neutral darker stain but it will be a major mess, time commitment and height bravery (as they are on high parts of our house). And yes, the prestain saves the day on birch. Actually, we did 3 coats of polly. We’re in the process of refinishing our red oak floors and have searched what feels like the entirety of the internet for a post like this! I wondered why the pine wood looks such a different color in the picture where you have all the pine boards next to each other vs. in the pictures with the Jacobean and Dark Walnut stains? Ft. of 4/4 and 10 Bd. Dark Walnut Stain, Quart Container. Nevertheless, it looks like we have a winner! Thanks for this post. $24.29. I loved this. Dura Seal Penetrating Finish Quick Coat - Dark Walnut-quart 4.4 out of 5 stars 3. I really appreciate the effort put into this and the comparisons are really useful. This choice was Greg’s favorite. Any idea how many coats of stain/poly you used? Very interesting! :). we love it too. Amazing photography as well. window.fd('form', { Hi Lisa! Natural wood tones vary, so expect your final stain color to vary slightly from board to board. The next day, our super-nice “floor guy”, Frank, applied them to the floor to let us see the stains on our red oak floors. Our floors are … a maple color, I guess? This next picture was also taken last night… None of the charts here state what kind of wood is being tested. Love this post. Such useful info! I must have read that wrong somewhere. :). 141 Fruitwood* ... 171 Dark Walnut* 110/210 Neutral. :) Thank you so much for this post!! I’ve been dying to redo my 1990’s era red oak floors for a long time now, but haven’t been able to find any really useful information. Love it! Thanks, all! So interesting to see the stains all lined up. Plywood if usually birch veneered for these reasons. 145 Golden Pecan* 139/239 Rosewood. Because there are so many items available to you, this can be a slow process. I have a red oak floor I’d like to redo. It absolutely helped me to decide on a stain color for our floors, and we will use conditioner, which I wasn’t aware was even an option! Naturals in a very red way. Thank You! Great job. This was perfectly timed! I am restoring a significantly damaged Gunn barrister bookcase….in oak….and your comparison has helped me finalize my choice! (Then wash with 1/4 vinegar/water and lightly sand.) I would like the ‘old world’ type of look to the finish. Finding the Perfect Lamp for the Living Room and FINALLY Tackling the Honey Oak Game Cupboard at the Bottom of the Stairs. thank you for showing me how to stain my red oak cabinets. The pine turned more gray than anything. 171 Dark Walnut 86171 12 81171 6 175 Jacobean 86175 12 81175 6 101 Country White 86101 4 81101 4 172 Classic Gray 86172 4 81172 4 170 Weathered Oak 86170 4 81170 4 173 Espresso 86173 12 81173 6 199 True Black 86199 12 81199 6 Solids 33% to 42% Viscosity 22-65 centipoises Coverage 500 sq. Doing an oil based poly over them vs a water based. looking to refinish our hardwood floors. It will look fine. Any suggestions. It should! Thanks! Gray undertones were not what we were looking for. We put in red oak because our flooring guy had a bunch of it and we got a good deal. Please sponsor at least one more post just like this but with other woods and stains. I just wanted to say thank you so much for taking the time to do this. Maybe a celebratory Ukrop’s cupcake will have to do until we move in, though : ). Would the stain obscure more of the grain if left on more than 2 minutes? 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